thesillychicken [Updated: unbanned]

[ipodparf Profile]

After multiple past episodes (Which can be found Here, Here, aaaaand Here), we felt as though your recent episodes, such as spamming chat with threats to commit suicide, killing Timber's pet wither (R.I.P. in peace Smokey AKA Test Subject 173-J), and various other instances of griefing that have gone without punishment, have gone too far. Even though you have been a big help to the community, the damage you have done outweighs the positives.

[thesillychicken Profile]

The following is meant to address all bans, Timber and TWiTCraft as a whole.

Hello TWiTCrafters,

The action that took place on August 24 was uncalled for. I killed Timber’s Pet Wither out of stress not in anger nor in disgust to Timber personally. I killed the Wither because it was a nice “punching bag” per say. This attack wasn't meant to be personally it was just a convenient stress reliever. But in return it only caused more headaches not only for me but the mods and the community of TWiTCraft. I’ve learned from this permanent ban. I’ve been thinking about how to improve myself as an online player and earn the respect of others and to respect their hard work. Most of you won’t think of me the same after this incident and I won't be able to earn your respect back for sometime. Timber I know I will probably never re earn your respect back. As for the spamming the chat with “threats to commit suicide” comes down to a personal matter I’m dealing with and I apologize that it had to come out in an inappropriately manner on the server in the form of spamming. If and when I’m allowed back I will focus more on the good of the server’s community like finishing redoing the Mirage Mall and maybe even helping with this what I see on the forums this 1.7 reset mess and maybe putting some ideas forward. I’m really sorry for the messes I’ve made and it’s time to clean them up and start with a new attitude towards others.


In best regards,

TheSillyChicken

[Dio Profile]

I'd like to throw in my support for the unbanning of TheSillyChicken. I feel like the punishment is too harsh considering TSC is an established community member who's been here since the server start. Especially since this latest ban is for a reason not even breaking the rules (while I agree it was a dick move, a mod has said before it wasn't breaking any rules killing a hostile mob, pet or not).

We all know chicken has good days and bad, but I refuse to turn my back on a community member/friend just because he makes some mistakes. I believe TSC has learned from this ban and I hope the mods give him another chance. TwitCraft just isn't the same without him.

[Inertpyro Profile]

I think it's more the fact that this isn't the first, second or even third time. As far as not being a personal attack on Timber I find that hard to believe given past events focused on Timber. I do agree you have had a positive effect on the community but at a certain point the scales become unbalanced.

[Dio Profile]

I think it's more the fact that this isn't the first, second or even third time. As far as not being a personal attack on Timber I find that hard to believe given past events focused on Timber. I do agree you have had a positive effect on the community but at a certain point the scales become unbalanced.

If you want to talk about ban amounts, not going to name names, but there are other players with more total bans who have not been permanently banned.

[VanteS]

The moderator team has decided to uphold the permanent ban placed on thesillychicken.

There were numerous warnings given, thesillychicken was notified that if rules continued to be broken a perma ban would be issued.

http://mc.twit.tv/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=661#p3545

Let me take a moment to provide a link to the rules just in case anybody hasn't seen them here in the forum:

http://mc.twit.tv/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=264#p953

[Dio Profile]

So why do some players get more chances than other players?

[blendermf]

thesillychicken has repeatedly been a problem, been banned, and has apologized for his actions over and over without changing his behaviour. He has not really shown any sign of change all those other times. It's really hard to trust his apologies at this point. It has been consistently a problem, and it was time to change that.

There aren't many other players that were continually a problem, especially in a rule breaking sense.

We also feel like we as a moderator group have been a little too lenient on some repeat offenders and troublemakers, and we feel that was something that needed to change. Silly may have been the first to be affected by that. sillychicken has had many, many chances, probably more than we should have given him.

We aren't having any major problems right now with any particular players repeatedly breaking rules and being a problem (beyond the standard griefing that goes on). We may have earlier on, but currently, at this moment, they are not a problem (as far as I'm aware).

[Dio Profile]

thesillychicken has repeatedly been a problem, been banned, and has apologized for his actions over and over without changing his behaviour.

Lets take a look at each of the bans:

5/27/2012 - (16 months ago) He was banned for breaking 2 blocks to look in a locked structure, he didn't take anything, and replaced the 2 blocks. I am also guilty of doing this when I was a new player on the server.

11/20/2012 - He griefed. He appealed and the ban time was lowered.

12/31/2012 - He was just trolling Curley. The ban was only for 2 hours and according to the rules page, a ban thread shouldn't of even been made. I, as well as many others are guilty of trolling.

4/20/2013 - Broke into a house. Yes he had done this before but nearly a year had passed since the last incident.

5/27/2013 - Disrespected a member in mumble. I wasn't there so can't comment on the ban but he did serve his entire 30 day ban despite appealing multiple times.

8/24/2013 - The most ridiculous ban of all IMO. He killed a hostile mob that was illegally spawned into the world by a mod. He didn't break into anything to do it.


So in Chickens ~16 months of playing here and being a founding member of TwitCraft, he has had what I would consider 2 major bans (the griefing and disrespecting a member in mumble) and yet he is now permanently banned with a denied appeal, but other players who have done similar things in a much shorter time span are not. Two examples would be Kentzell and Superkid - both players who have griefed multiple times, spammed chat, posted links to porn, disrespected other players, threatened other players with physical harm, and made death threats. But yet they have never been permanently banned.

I looked through the plank of shame and found that 26 out of the 28 bans that were appealed, were unbanned with no questions asked (15 of them being permanent bans). But now TSC's appeal is being denied?

There may be more to the story that I don't know about. But based on the evidence that has been presented I feel like the mods are being unfair to this player. I feel like the permanent ban was more out of anger that a 'test subject' was killed or based off of personal feelings of dislike towards the player. I ask that the mods put their personal feelings aside, and re-examine this players ban with the professionalism a moderator should have - while remembering all the good this player has done for the server (Town Hall, community centered projects, a new website, writing guides on the forum, ect).

[gregor1942 Profile]

dio i honestly agree with the mods on upholding this ban. while i will agree with you about the bans of chicken are weak for the first 4 bans and then two bigger offenses. the difference between him and the other two people you named is that they truly showed remorse for their wrong doings. as for length of time he has been on that shouldn't make a difference, i have been on this server since it was called "Fertilized" and "Chatvival" and if i had broken the rules i would try once because i love the server but if that didn't work i would walk away. if anything the fact that chicken was on since the beginning should mean he understands the rules.

as for the more to the story what is not included is the numerous warnings in between each ban.

ultimately this decision comes up to the mods and if they say no then i will miss chicken

[SkyerCorp Profile]

Speaking for myself, I have had nothing but pleasurable dealings with thesillychicken. I am grateful for his contributions to the server in game, on the forums, on the website and with the town hall meetings. The space he provided to sellers at the Mirage Mall was a long time primary destination to search for materials and a welcome resource to the community especially when Leoville plots were closed to the public.

I completely understand that those with even more experience with thesillychicken are better judges for appropriate punishment. I hope for a successful appeal some day. Maybe he can be placed in an in-game jail where he can do time, perform community service and eventually be put on parole. Or maybe restrict him to just flatland for a while. Or maybe make him a "read-only" player. Without knowing of all the 2nd, 3rd and nth chances thesillychicken has already received I'm just thinking there are ways to have him contribute to the community and eventually earn the trust back to join us again as equals.

[geo131313 Profile]

I like the idea of chicken doing "community service" or something of that sort to earn back the community's trust. I personally have always had positive experience while playing with him on the server. I feel it would be a shame to have such a longtime player who made many contributions to the community have to go. I hope the upholding of the ban gets reconsidered.

[Timberwolf1777]

As I have been named so often in this thread and have so much experience dealing with this player, I feel that it is only fair that I comment here.

I will not advise or ask for any particular outcome in this. I'll simply share my experiences and let you all interperet as you will.

I have had many great experiences with TSC on the server. Whether it was brainstorming about lamppost designs, having a party at his leoville house, working together to make gardens for the mirage, or giving tours of his home and design ideas, he has definitely shown that he has good aesthetic sense and can work together with individuals and the community to make productive builds for the good of all. These are his good days.

His bad days are also often and difficult. I can only assume that he focused this negative energy on me due to who I am, how I responded to him, and the fact that after each of many of his apologies, I was willing to try to forgive him and move on with him trying always to give him the beneft of the doubt. I never knew when/how his bad days would strike but inevitably, they would. There was a month immediately following an extremely difficult moment in my life (which he knew about) where almost every day he would attempt to mess with me. From giant derp cobble builds surrounding my home which would be torn down shortly, to jumping up and down in my face while I was trying to build, to trying to break into builds I was working on the moment I opened a small hole in a wall I was replacing, the trolling (although not technically rule breaking) was constant. It even got to the point where I would log off when he showed up, just so I could avoid him. Despite his apologies and my requests that his behavior end, it didnt and the mods would do nothing to help. This is a big part of why I had a falling out with certain mods and lost faith in some of those mods authority. Although his specific "griefing" incidents are not very numerous, TSC is kindof like lighter fuel. Any situation that has the possibility to ignite, he does a very good job of accelerating the combustion.

Chose what you will. Personally, I have this player perminently set to ignore. I truly hope, for all of our sakes, that if he does return to TWiTCraft, that he has learned something that will help him through his bad days.

-Timber

[blendermf]

As I have been named so often in this thread and have so much experience dealing with this player, I feel that it is only fair that I comment here.

I will not advise or ask for any particular outcome in this. I'll simply share my experiences and let you all interperet as you will.
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-Timber

The type of things mentioned here, are why we still feel permanent ban is the right decision. It doesn't even end at timber (although there was a lot focused on him).

A lot of issues like that resulted in a warning, or less, maybe partially because of the good things he's done, maybe partially because we were getting soft. We also understood that there were some days, where he was having a bad day, but we can't really use that to excuse repeated bad behavior.

It had gone on too long, without change, and that's why we felt like it was something that had to change.

Silly was a awesome part of the community when not having one of his bad moments, and I liked the dude when he was behaving. I understand where you guys are coming from in missing him.

[thesillychicken Profile]

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[abigail Profile]

it's too bad that TSC's ban is permanent. I have had nothing but good experiences with him. at the same time i see where people are coming from with legitimate bans and harrasment. (i have had nothing but good experiences with Timber for that matter too, since hes mentioned so much above, i said it)

in some ways TSC reminds me of me, except my bad days are lack of action instead of action that is not always postitive.

this discussion looks to have reached a conclusion without my input, but I wanted to say it anyway. I am sad that things turned out this way, I will respect the mods decisions but I am still sad that things turned out this way. I wont forget the cobble pumpkin-man in my house (TSC's work). hopefully better days will come wherever they happen at.

[thesillychicken Profile]

Dear TWiTCraft Community,

I've been speaking recently with many current members of the TWiTCraft community about the upcoming changes to the server. I find the prospect of starting over on a new map very appealing yet I am disappointed because, due to my prior actions, I am currently not able to play on the server.

It has now been almost 6 months since my ban from TWiTCraft. In the past few months, I've had time to consider my actions and how they have negatively impacted myself and the server community at large. I understand that this may be a controversial topic and all I can do is assure you that I will not commit the acts that eventually forced the moderators to ban me again.

With this new map and the new year beginning, I feel that I am ready to start on a new foot. I would like to rejoin the community and become active in it again. I was a member of TWiTCraft for over a year and a half and I feel that I have a lot to offer, given the opportunity. I appreciate your consideration in lifting my ban.

Thank you,

TheSillyChicken

[blendermf]

We've decided to give you another try, so you've been unbanned for the reset.

If you do anything ban-worthy it's back to perm, so behave yourself.

And welcome back

[thesillychicken Profile]

Thanks for letting me back. It's gonna be awhile till I feel comfortable playing on TWiTCraft again. Will be playing a lot tomorrow due to the cold weather that is coming.