End Grinder

[scotjr79 Profile]

I was wondering when any of the four enderman grinders will be completed? All are locked and at least from the map appear to be mostly complete. I donated some supplies to a player constructing one of them but was told it is still off limits till it is done, even though it did appear to be up to snuff and producing good drops. If one of the others is close and needs a final push, please message me, as I do have stock piles of cobble/stone and other goods that I am willing to donate.

[PosterAnonymous Profile]

I'd recommend contacting the player you assisted. If they are decent and the grinder is complete, they'll grant you access. If not, it's unfortunately one of those lessons we learn in most online games:

Some players cannot be trusted.

Sad, but true. Just like the "Every girl you talk to online is a dude. Even if you've seen pics and heard a voice, dude looks like a lady." See? Steven Tyler was preparing you for the Internet long before it was cool to talk about it.

EDIT: Also, you can read the signs for the other 3 grinders you mentioned and try contacting the owners. One may be willing to grant you access. In fact, I believe one is charging 5 coins to open the door - Not bad considering you can enchant an item that can then be sold for far more than 5 coins.

[scotjr79 Profile]

Sad, but true. Just like the "Every girl you talk to online is a dude. Even if you've seen pics and heard a voice, dude looks like a lady." See? Steven Tyler was preparing you for the Internet long before it was cool to talk about it.

Ahh yes, made my day. Thank You. LOL.

The blaze grinder is the one charging 5 coin per use with is a great value and I have used that one.

[PosterAnonymous Profile]

I'm sorry - you're correct. I saw a DonateHand sign and processed it as a pay sign.

[chesterhowley Profile]

Having the grinders in The End closed presents an unfair advantage to those that can access them due to the fact that is much faster to level up XP using an enderman grinder than a zombie or skeleton grinder in the Overworld. Either anyone should be able to access or create a grinder in The End, or those that are "sanctioned" should have clear paths for access. Months of "under construction" isn't very fair when others can use them anytime.

[VanteS]

Give it time, the server hasn't even been up for a month. A public grinder will eventually be made available, offering materials to help build might even speed up the process.

[abigail Profile]

if everyone reading this, that does not have access to a grinder, all got together to make a public one it would not take long.

[jaythedogg Profile]

So, I was reading this thread, thankfully I looked first, I was prepared to make a new one, and I got to thinking, what about the grinders?
Are there any open to the public?
Short answer: No. Following are screenshots:
First, SGS & Goob (I forget who SGS is, but Goob I believe is VanteS) Apparently it's functional, but by invite only (definitely not public)


NGT's Grinder, I've been told this one is also functional, yet it is locked. Clearly not public.


Dio's farm... My that is some sight! According to the signs, it isn't finished, yet it looks very functional, just not for the public.


Finally, Tufkal's farm (I think), not finished, not open for the public to finish either.


Why such a fuss?
Because this is the way natural spawners work: A natural spawner limits an area that mobs can spawn in to a central location by the user choosing an area (or building/modifying) that only allows mobs to spawn in a said location. This is done here in the end by keeping your spawning pad(s) a minimum of 128 blocks away from land that endermen can spawn on in all directions from the pads. This means that if from a central location below the main island (like the floating platform is currently) 4 teams build 4 different spawners, each in a different primary direction ( North East South West), and they each extend out 128 blocks past the main island, for spawning purposes...
Then they hold a monopoly on spawning.
Why?
If someone were to build one off in a diagonal direction between the spawners (which someone made a very derpy cobble pathed inefficient spawner), then once out past the main island by 128 blocks, this spawner is shorter than 128 blocks from the neighboring spawners, getting in to their needed dead space. (unless my math/logic is wrong, I'm sick and it's 5am here, I normally wake up in a half an hour, but I've been up all night)

So, who is building the community spawner? Also, if this community spawner really exists, can the community have access to help build it? Lastly, if not, can we, the people that populate this server, ie, the community, have access, even for a reasonable cost, to your very functional ender farms please?

[Dio Profile]

I'll try to get mine open for a small fee later tonight. I just haven't had a lot of time for Twitcraft lately.

[PosterAnonymous Profile]

Ah OK - I knew someone was going to open a pay-per-use grinder, just couldn't remember who. I'll be sure to mention that @ the Town Hall tomorrow.

[jaythedogg Profile]

I'll try to get mine open for a small fee later tonight. I just haven't had a lot of time for Twitcraft lately.

Thank you, I like your design and the fact that it has modern amenities. (Enchanting table)

[Goobler Profile]

To my knowledge tufkal was going to do his for the public (not sure if it was pay per use or not) but then just lost steam on building it (it's a huge job) so if people offered to help then maybe that will open?

[NightWorldSky Profile]

NGT's Grinder, I've been told this one is also functional, yet it is locked. Clearly not public.

This is not NGT's, I have no clue why you would think that. It is mine. It is no where near functional yet, it is just a road. and again I don't know where you got this information. As far as if it will be public or not, I'm not sure. It will be done fairly soon though, just have not been able to dedicate some time to TWiTCraft lately.

Just Clarifying

-NightWorldSky

[jaythedogg Profile]

This is not NGT's, I have no clue why you would think that. It is mine. It is no where near functional yet, it is just a road. and again I don't know where you got this information. As far as if it will be public or not, I'm not sure. It will be done fairly soon though, just have not been able to dedicate some time to TWiTCraft lately.

Just Clarifying

-NightWorldSky

To quote myself:

I'm sick and it's 5am here, I normally wake up in a half an hour, but I've been up all night

Sorry, I meant NWS, not NGT, I was mega tired... and sick.

I had a player telling me that he was using pearls & creative methods to get to each grinder location, I thought he said that Tufkal's was the only non-functional one. Please don't think I am trying to offend, was just a long night & I was very frustrated, as I've wanted to build an ender grinder for some time now.

[DragonofHalo Profile]

As discussed in Town Hall, it is impossible to monopolize the End. As long as you go another 128 blocks out from the grinder closest to the island, you can make another one and have it function fine. Inconvenient, but perfectly functional. This means that anyone and everyone is free to make their own grinder.

However
There are some serious points that need to be addressed for anybody wanting to make an enderman grinder:
To be courteous to everyone else on the server, you need to know what you're doing when you're making a grinder like this. Building a 3x3 cobblestone roof above your head on the main island and angering the endermen will only result in minimal gain and sucking away spawns for everyone else.

Before making a grinder, you should do some research on youtube or the interwebs and make sure that you have a pretty good idea of what you're doing before you start doing it.

A grinder of any kind is still private property unless otherwise stated. While it may be inconvenient that you don't have access to the public grinders that you had on the last map, it is still up to the owners of the grinders themselves whether to make them private, public or open for a fee.

(Also gotta keep in mind that the new map hasn't been up for much more than a month. Grinders on the old map didn't even exist until about 6 months in.)

[Goobler Profile]

I would suggest that in the future if you wished to help/gain access to a grinder or even find out information on them, to contact the person directly, as it just seems bad form accusing folk on the forums. As for reasoning behind people making it private I can tell you one reason is that it is a lot of work building one and the people who put in the time and materials, would like to gain something for their efforts, if they all were public right away (even with a pay per use fee) then they would be flooded with people using it, and you'd also be competing with a lot more people on the sale of enchantments, the vast majority of which would be obtained through use of your grinder. See a problem there?

[NightWorldSky Profile]

This is not NGT's, I have no clue why you would think that. It is mine. It is no where near functional yet, it is just a road. and again I don't know where you got this information. As far as if it will be public or not, I'm not sure. It will be done fairly soon though, just have not been able to dedicate some time to TWiTCraft lately.

Just Clarifying

-NightWorldSky

To quote myself:

I'm sick and it's 5am here, I normally wake up in a half an hour, but I've been up all night

Sorry, I meant NWS, not NGT, I was mega tired... and sick.

I had a player telling me that he was using pearls & creative methods to get to each grinder location, I thought he said that Tufkal's was the only non-functional one. Please don't think I am trying to offend, was just a long night & I was very frustrated, as I've wanted to build an ender grinder for some time now.

And again, just clarifying. It's all good.

ALSO: Hope ya' get better.

-NightWorldSky